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In 1942, the first “Macy meeting”, (three years prior to the Macy conferences proper) was on the subject of “cerebral inhibition”, (hypnotism). At this gathering the psychologist Milton Erickson, hypnotized a Yale psychologist. During the lunch-break Gregory Bateson got into conversation with the other delegates about the thread that seemed to link Erickson’s demonstration, the diverse subjects of that meeting and a common concern of the work of many of those assembled – ‘feedback’. Namely, that the principle of feedback could be applied to any number scientific disciplines (i.e.: the social systems examined in psychology and anthropology, the dynamic system in physics and the systems of ‘call and response’ in language communication and in the field of ballistics). Also in 1942 Edwin Schrӧdinger gave his What is Life lectures which suggested that chromosomes contain the coded script of the body (a decade before being given empirical credence by Watson and Crick.  
In 1942, the first “Macy meeting”, (three years prior to the Macy conferences proper) was on the subject of “cerebral inhibition”, (hypnotism). At this gathering the psychologist Milton Erickson, hypnotized a Yale psychologist. During the lunch-break Gregory Bateson got into conversation with the other delegates about the thread that seemed to link Erickson’s demonstration, the diverse subjects of that meeting and a common concern of the work of many of those assembled – ‘feedback’. Namely, that the principle of feedback could be applied to any number scientific disciplines (i.e.: the social systems examined in psychology and anthropology, the dynamic system in physics and the systems of ‘call and response’ in language communication and in the field of ballistics). Also in 1942 Edwin Schrӧdinger gave his What is Life lectures which suggested that chromosomes contain the coded script of the body (a decade before being given empirical credence by Watson and Crick.  


The uniqueness of the Macy gatherings was that various men and women in different fields could cross-refer their findings which effectively allowed for the construction of a new paradigm, to take elements which were methodologically related and fashion them into a coherent system. Margaret Mead, speaking in 1976, about the first Macy Conference formally dealing with the subject of ‘feedback’ stated: “ …[in 1945] there wasn’t even any usable terminology. At first we called the thing ‘feedback,’ and the models that we were presented with at that point were the guided missile, target-seeking…[principles]” […] “There were three groups of people, there were the mathematicians and physicists - people trained in the physical sciences, who were very, very precise in what they wanted to think about. There was a small group of us, anthropologists and psychiatrists, who were trained to know enough about psychology in groups so we knew what was happening and could use it, and disallow it. And then there were two or three gossips in the middle, who were very simple people who had a lot of loose intuition and no discipline to what they were doing. In a sense it was the most interesting conference I’ve ever been in, because nobody knew how to manage this thing yet…”
The uniqueness of the Macy gatherings was that various men and women in different fields could cross-refer their findings which effectively allowed for the construction of a new paradigm, to take elements which were methodologically related and fashion them into a coherent system.  
<ref>Brand, Stewert, “For God’s Sake, Margaret, conversation between Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead”, CoEvolutionary Quarterly, June 1976, Issue no. 10, pp. 32-44</ref>




==previously==
Gregory Bateson was a central figure in realising the Macy Conferences on cybernetics. On Bateson's insistence the Macy Meetings would follow the model of the Macy foundation sponsored meeting convened in 1942. At this meeting  Bateson became aware of the radical implications of Wiener et al's Behaviour, Teleology and Purpose (which would be published in 1943). It was on the insistence of Bateson and Margaret Mede that the human sciences were included within its remit of subsequent conferences. The Macy Conferences on cybernetics (1946-53) invited specialists from the natural and social sciences and encouraging an interdiciplinarity which had been a feature of war-time research cultures. <ref>Steve J. Heims, ''Constructing a Social Science for Postwar America: The Cybernetics Group'', 1946-1953. Cambridge: MIT Press, 1993</ref>
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Margaret Mead, speaking in 1976, about the first Macy Conference formally dealing with the subject of ‘feedback’ stated: <br>
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''“[in 1945] there wasn’t even any usable terminology. At first we called the thing ‘feedback,’ and the models that we were presented with at that point were the guided missile, target-seeking…[principles]” […] “There were three groups of people, there were the mathematicians and physicists - people trained in the physical sciences, who were very, very precise in what they wanted to think about. There was a small group of us, anthropologists and psychiatrists, who were trained to know enough about psychology in groups so we knew what was happening and could use it, and disallow it. And then there were two or three gossips in the middle, who were very simple people who had a lot of loose intuition and no discipline to what they were doing. In a sense it was the most interesting conference I’ve ever been in, because nobody knew how to manage this thing yet…”''<ref>“For God’s Sake, Margaret”. CoEvolutionary Quarterly, June 1976, Issue no. 10, pp. 32-44</ref>
''“[in 1945] there wasn’t even any usable terminology. At first we called the thing ‘feedback,’ and the models that we were presented with at that point were the guided missile, target-seeking…[principles]” […] “There were three groups of people, there were the mathematicians and physicists - people trained in the physical sciences, who were very, very precise in what they wanted to think about. There was a small group of us, anthropologists and psychiatrists, who were trained to know enough about psychology in groups so we knew what was happening and could use it, and disallow it. And then there were two or three gossips in the middle, who were very simple people who had a lot of loose intuition and no discipline to what they were doing. In a sense it was the most interesting conference I’ve ever been in, because nobody knew how to manage this thing yet…”'' <ref>Brand, Stewart, “For God’s Sake, Margaret, conversation between Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead”, CoEvolutionary Quarterly, June 1976, Issue no. 10, pp. 32-44</ref>
 
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In 1942, the first “Macy meeting”, (three years prior to the Macy conferences proper) was on the subject of “cerebral inhibition”, (hypnotism). At this gathering the psychologist Milton Erickson, hypnotized a Yale psychologist. During the lunch-break Gregory Bateson got into conversation with the other delegates about the thread that seemed to link Erickson’s demonstration, the diverse subjects of that meeting and a common concern of the work of many of those assembled – ‘feedback’. Namely, that the principle of feedback could be applied to any number scientific disciplines (i.e.: the social systems examined in psychology and anthropology, the dynamic system in physics and the systems of ‘call and response’ in language communication and in the field of ballistics). Also in 1942 Edwin Schrӧdinger gave his What is Life lectures which suggested that chromosomes contain the coded script of the body (a decade before being given empirical credence by Watson and Crick. The uniqueness of the Macy gatherings was that various men and women in different fields could cross-refer their findings which effectively allowed for the construction of a new paradigm, to take elements which were methodologically related and fashion them into a coherent system. Margaret Mead, speaking in 1976, about the first Macy Conference formally dealing with the subject of ‘feedback’ stated:

“[in 1945] there wasn’t even any usable terminology. At first we called the thing ‘feedback,’ and the models that we were presented with at that point were the guided missile, target-seeking…[principles]” […] “There were three groups of people, there were the mathematicians and physicists - people trained in the physical sciences, who were very, very precise in what they wanted to think about. There was a small group of us, anthropologists and psychiatrists, who were trained to know enough about psychology in groups so we knew what was happening and could use it, and disallow it. And then there were two or three gossips in the middle, who were very simple people who had a lot of loose intuition and no discipline to what they were doing. In a sense it was the most interesting conference I’ve ever been in, because nobody knew how to manage this thing yet…” [1]

  1. Brand, Stewart, “For God’s Sake, Margaret, conversation between Gregory Bateson and Margaret Mead”, CoEvolutionary Quarterly, June 1976, Issue no. 10, pp. 32-44